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How I hate thee.... - Hanak - 11-10-2009
NightFire Wrote:Lightsaber blades aren't "painted" with a pigment. Once you pass light through a series of crystals to reach "black" there isn't any light to do anything in the lightsaber with. You'd be focusing nothing at that point.
If this were so, then the color black would be nothing.
But the color black exists (yep, I have a black crayon right here)
Therefore what would be used to make a lightsaber black would also exist.
How I hate thee.... - Meparch - 11-10-2009
Yes a child's toy is the definitive decider on the physical world.
Color is light. Black is the absence of light. A light saber by name requires light and therefore can not be black. Of course there are no light sabers so why not have a black light saber. It can certainly be done in fair tale land, err SWG.
How I hate thee.... - Hanak - 11-10-2009
Archangel Wrote:Color is light. Black is the absence of light.
So then, is black a color?
How I hate thee.... - QuorTek - 11-10-2009
it is refered to as a color when used in speech or text or whatever but the technical term actually would be looking into something that we cannot see and then it just becomes some sort of black hole... that in our visible spectrum is know as looking at something that is absorping all light, meaning it would be like a shade.
You can refere to darkness as to move into a room, turn out the light... make sure it is completely sealed and you would be able to see nothing unless you got a flashlight to spread the light out into different corners of the room... if the rooms walls is even painted black... and if the room is circular as well or like being inside a big ball... then you would go crazy not knowing where you would be... kind of a syrealistic thought though and an interesting experiment.
But let it rest as it is.
How I hate thee.... - Hanak - 11-10-2009
So indeed black is a color?
If so and we say a green lightsaber, or blue, or yellow - these are references to color. So why not a black lightsaber?
How I hate thee.... - QuorTek - 11-10-2009
Because technically you cannot create black light... it would be where the technology would be set to 0 instead of 1, I believe in televisions it is still going by mixing 3 colors to get the black thing in a figure of speech.. the way it is sound very logic to me as a person and after having thought a bit of it, you can generate a spot that is black with light types with switching the flashlight off... or make something to block the light by eg putting a solid spot in the way in which causes darkness or a black syndrome. or a partly eclipse
How I hate thee.... - Meparch - 11-10-2009
Black in the absence of color. It is simply put, not a color but a lack of color. People who don't understand how light and colors work, ie most of human history, saw black as just another color until it was understood what color is.
How I hate thee.... - Hanak - 11-10-2009
We aren't specifically talking light. We are talking color. Since the color black can be made by the combination of other colors - then the COLOR of a lightsaber can be black.
How I hate thee.... - Hanak - 11-10-2009
Archangel Wrote:Black in the absence of color. It is simply put, not a color but a lack of color. People who don't understand how light and colors work, ie most of human history, saw black as just another color until it was understood what color is.
Arch, this is completely wrong. Black is the absence of light by total absorption. Black as a color is made by the combination of all colors.
How I hate thee.... - Meparch - 11-10-2009
The color black can not be made by a combination of colors. Combind a bunch of colors and you get white. Think of how a monitor works, not how pigments work.
How I hate thee.... - Hanak - 11-10-2009
Archangel Wrote:The color black can not be made by a combination of colors. Combind a bunch of colors and you get white. Think of how a monitor works, not how pigments work.
Due to your humorous statements in the past, I'm wondering if you are just playing now.
You seperate/combine light to get white. You combine colors to get black.
How I hate thee.... - Meparch - 11-10-2009
Umm, light is color. Ok, I give up. You are either playing or in need of a physics class.
How I hate thee.... - Hanak - 11-10-2009
"There are many color perceptions that by definition cannot be pure spectral colors due to desaturation or because they are purples (mixtures of red and violet light, from opposite ends of the spectrum). Some examples of necessarily non-spectral colors are the achromatic colors (black, gray and white) and colors such as pink, tan, and magenta." ~Wikipedia
The pure spectral colors refers to colors obtained by light.
How I hate thee.... - Meparch - 11-10-2009
or they are a mixture of pure spectral colors but they still require photons for your rods and cones to see. We see the mixture of spectral colors as a single color as our eyes have multiple photo receptors for different wave lengths of photons and our brains process those multiple signals as a single color. We only know of black because our brains too can process no signal at all.
How I hate thee.... - NightFire - 11-10-2009
Black is actually a shade and not a color.