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How I hate thee.... - Hanak - 11-10-2009
True Nis, but also...
"Although black is sometimes described as an "achromatic", or hueless, color, in practice it can be considered a color, as in expressions like "black cat" or "black paint"."
How I hate thee.... - Meparch - 11-11-2009
In laymen english it is a color, in physics it is the absence of color.
How I hate thee.... - Hanak - 11-11-2009
Archangel Wrote:In laymen english it is a color, in physics it is the absence of light.
^fixed
In art, black is the combination of all colors.
But yes, in physics, black is the lack of all light due to absorbsion.
How I hate thee.... - Hanak - 11-11-2009
So I was thinking about this some more.
You are correct that the light emitted for the blade itself cannot be black.
But rather, you have the crystal refracting all possible colors (due to some very odd/rare phenonema) which would give the blade the appearance of black.
How I hate thee.... - QuorTek - 11-11-2009
Would be blue and in art.. then black is still black.. it is the colour white that is a fragment of all colours.
How I hate thee.... - Hanak - 11-11-2009
By an art definition, this would cause the appearance of what is commonly accepted as 'black'.
How I hate thee.... - Hanak - 11-11-2009
QuorTek Wrote:Would be blue and in art.. then black is still black.. it is the colour white that is a fragment of all colours.
Light and color are different.
White light is fractured into the different colors in the visible light spectrum and the existence of black in regards to light is caused by absorbtion.
White as a color is created by the absense of these colors being added and black as a color is created by the inclusion of all colors.
How I hate thee.... - Meparch - 11-11-2009
You're confused how pigments work. You are thinking mixing of pigments is an addition processes when in fact it is a subtraction process. You are taking away color when mixing pigments, especially when trying to create black. This is because you are absorbing even more light as you add the pigments together. You are thinking you are simply adding in color which isn't true.
Some artists didn't know physics and the classical artists didn't have such information available. So the mixing of colors was poorly understood for a long time and continues to be poorly understood. Any artist doing work on a computer does need to learn how light emission actually works, as the monitor works by light emission. When it comes time to mix layers it is a good idea to understand how all of this works. For this reason most artists now of days have to actually learn how light and hence color works. There is no difference between light and color.
You need to remember color is an emission or reflection of light. In the case of a lightsaber you get the colors due to a particular spectrum emission. The more crystals you add, the whiter the blade becomes. The only way to have a light saber be black, ie no light emitted, is to turn it off.
How I hate thee.... - QuorTek - 11-11-2009
well paint projects the light that grants us teh colour we would like to see.. the light projecting into the paint.. depending on the type of light grants certain colours to the human eye.
If normal daylight and mona lisa is shown it would grant the right colours and spectrums that your eyes absorp from the reflected light that transforms into electrical impulses in our brain and grants us this and that colour... you can alter the colours by just changing the type of light, putting a red filter on would make the white colours more pink for an instance as it would be that light that is reflected from the paint into our brain.
Black as in a colour you can put as a dark shape... or like something that light cannot reflect in other forms than a shadow... the shadow can have a shape and form though... and if looking at the other side of the shadow you can have a corona of light around it under the right circumstances... but it is a weird world we are living whenever it get to it.
My points of view goes by Biology and physics (which is math, just with other symbols) and to some extent chemistry as well, as an art form and from what the eye can see you can put it as Black colour... but if you step into a room with the color black on all walls and ceiling you would be having a weird time trying to find around... mostly because everything you see if black even with light on or off... which more you can do is to remove the corners and it would get really fun.
Seriously I think we are heading waaay off topic haha..
How I hate thee.... - Hanak - 11-12-2009
Archangel Wrote:For this reason most artists now of days have to actually learn how light and hence color works. There is no difference between light and color.
You need to remember color is an emission or reflection of light.
As I research this more, I wanted to point out that the first two sentences here are not necessary implications. Just because they are related occurances, does not mean that there is no difference between them. Which clearly your 3rd sentence contradicts the 2nd.
How I hate thee.... - Meparch - 11-13-2009
Color is a photon at a percitular wave length. As soon as that is understood my second and third sentances support each other. You need some basic high school physics there Hanak, sorry to say.
How I hate thee.... - Meryl Haddox - 11-14-2009
So I've decided to take this for a spin when it's released Feb 10th
How I hate thee.... - Dervish - 11-15-2009
Meryl Haddox Wrote:So I've decided to take this for a spin when it's released Feb 10th
I want to be Wesley Crusher and hit on Ensign Lefler!
How I hate thee.... - kateria - 11-15-2009
Trekkies ! :zap!:
How I hate thee.... - Quinlin - 12-12-2009
Hanak Wrote:So then, is black a color?
No, it's a shade.
