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Is the Force Awakens a rehash of the original trilogy? - Cillian Harth - 12-20-2015
Seems like it
Is the Force Awakens a rehash of the original trilogy? - adun12345 - 12-20-2015
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Is the Force Awakens a rehash of the original trilogy? - Meparch - 12-21-2015
Reboots gonna be reboots. And half of those EU books rehashed that plot as well as did Jedi.
Maybe we wanted something different or more but we had to expect Revenge of the EU or Return of the EU, depending on one's point of view.
The stand alone movies may give us something different that could be good, just like the stand alone books in the EU could.
Is the Force Awakens a rehash of the original trilogy? - Cillian Harth - 01-02-2016
Meparch Wrote:Reboots gonna be reboots. And half of those EU books rehashed that plot as well as did Jedi.
Maybe we wanted something different or more but we had to expect Revenge of the EU or Return of the EU, depending on one's point of view.
The stand alone movies may give us something different that could be good, just like the stand alone books in the EU could.
Well it seems George Lucas wasn't a fan of it himself he felt it was too much of a retro. He quotes on saying "I donât like that. Every movie I work very hard to make them completely different, with different planets, with different spaceships, make it newâ
Is the Force Awakens a rehash of the original trilogy? - Meparch - 01-02-2016
Lucas is a tinkerer and experimenter. He takes risks and is always looking to innovate even at the expense of entertaining people. The thing with experiments is this, some times they succeed, maybe even be huge successes, other times they fail, maybe even be huge failures. So yes Lucas is responsible for Howard the Duck and Jar Jar and some irrelevant movies like Red Tails and Willow and then you have your American Graffiti, Indiana Jones and of course Star Wars.
He isn't going to like the new Star Wars movie. It's a reboot that takes zero risks and doesn't experiment or innovate. There is nothing new to see there.
Something to keep in mind though, Disney is a publicly traded company. They have a legal obligation to make their share holders money, not do movie experiments. Disney may have way underpaid for Lucas Film but there was a huge concern Star Wars was done, pushed out by Marvel. Disney had a legal obligation to make good on that $4 billion of stock holders money they spent.
With that in mind TFA was an excellent and intelligent movie. The reality is SW is almost 40 years old now. Some of the actors in that movie are already diseased. Sadly in the next decade, even more will be. Young people, where all the money is to be made, are not going to be infatuated with a movie full of a bunch of dead people. Just is not going to happen. It's the movie grandpa likes. They had only one option, take the original Star Wars movie, update it and hand that story over to the new generation of little tikes so they can be infatuated with their own movie, not grandpa's. They did exactly that and they did it more than well enough. This isn't a movie for dad or grandpa although they would like it well enough too.
The next movies and stand alone movies Disney will have a little wiggle room to innovate. However that legal obligation to the share holders will not change and the movies will be safe, good but not great, and money makers. After they double their investment and know they can't produce similar stuff again and again we will get the equivalent to Guardians of the Galaxy in the Star Wars universe. So yes, we will eventually see something rather different but not until Disney has made good on that $4 billion.
Star Wars was a transformative movie. It fundamentally changed culture and an industry. We should have no expectations or hope that such a movie will ever again be produced. We will see other transformative products on the market again though, the last big one was the iPhone, but don't expect anything of that scale to come out of hollywood ever again. It is a fully mature industry. It will innovate and evolve slowly over time but its days of completely shaking and transforming human culture are over even if it is a huge part of our culture. The same can be said about the music industry.
Is the Force Awakens a rehash of the original trilogy? - adun12345 - 01-02-2016
Here are two other fan responses to the question. Both are rather abrasive (in that oh-so passive-aggressive Star Wars fandom sort of way), but if you can get past the presentation both also make some interesting points.
Is the Force Awakens a rehash of the original trilogy? - QuorTek - 01-15-2016
Not a copy of a story... but a start of a new one... I just watched the new Starwars Movie today and I loved it... a new adventure and I would say in some ways its on level with episode IV-V-VI.
As much as I would like to discuss matters I fear there would be to many spoilers included and I am not sure if Star has seen it yet.... but he should.
Is the Force Awakens a rehash of the original trilogy? - Meparch - 01-15-2016
Star hasn't seen it but him and his EU support group know every line of that movie so they can best trash the hell out of it.
Is the Force Awakens a rehash of the original trilogy? - Pallos - 05-05-2016
I would say it doesn't even stand up to the originals, or even the prequels. There is no weight to the movie at all. It felt more like the ewok movies. One of the greatest moments to me in the entire series is the binary sunset scene in 4. Regardless of the camp and the cartoon nature of many things, there were many scenes that had weight. I couldn't find them in awakens. No, not even that scene. What a waste. I know that was always his dream, but that could have been done better in every way.
Is the Force Awakens a rehash of the original trilogy? - QuorTek - 05-05-2016
I actually prefere the new movies over the books because it grant me double the amount of content in a figure of speech.
Though maybe the authors of the books that go on after Return of the Jedi should had went down other paths and not making the main characters from the movies the heroes though but rather giving them an appearence instead of a long story line giving fans false hope for the future movies.
It certainly worked with the games that way.